Do you miss Trump?

[MrDawn]

Does anyone miss President Trump yet?

 

[Phenom]

I miss him already. In one day, Biden already overturned a majority of his policy decisions. The crazy thing is that if you listen to a majority of the minority community of legal, American citizens and immigrants, they enjoyed the changes he was bringing because it lowered unemployment faster, gifted more money back to the people where it belongs and helped many in poor neighborhoods escape and better themselves.

I just can't understand the blind, indoctrinated hatred for him. A majority of people can't even give adequate reasons and resort to emotional arguments, ignoring the facts.

 

[Demon_skeith]

Looks like his supporters fell apart and vanished, apparently the Proud Boys even calling Trump a failure now.

 

[Empire]

He holds nothing back never afraid to offend anyone, I respect that about him. Too many entitled sensitive cry baby’s in today’s society

 

[Phenom]

He holds nothing back never afraid to offend anyone, I respect that about him. Too many entitled sensitive cry baby’s in today’s society

Thank you.

Looks like his supporters fell apart and vanished

False. Charlie Kirk is still one of his biggest supporters and believes he will make a comeback and run again in the 2024 election.

 

[Abizaga]

No. He was a coward who hid in the face of crisis (hiding in a bunker and turning the lights out during the riots) and threw a tantrum when he lost the election like a child being sent off to bed. I feel nothing for him.

 

[Phenom]

No. He was a coward who hid in the face of crisis (hiding in a bunker and turning the lights out during the riots) and threw a tantrum when he lost the election like a child being sent off to bed. I feel nothing for him.

Where the hell did you hear he was hiding in a bunker during the riots? The only time he hid in the bunker was because a crowd of people charged the White House and it is protocol for the secret service to escort the President to the bunker. It's kind of their job to ensure his safety.

As to the throwing a tantrum at losing the election, it was stolen. End of story. There is no way that the outcome happened like it did, it just isn't possible.

Just wait, in a year you're going to regret voting for Biden.

 

[Abizaga]

Where the hell did you hear he was hiding in a bunker during the riots? The only time he hid in the bunker was because a crowd of people charged the White House and it is protocol for the secret service to escort the President to the bunker. It's kind of their job to ensure his safety.

As to the throwing a tantrum at losing the election, it was stolen. End of story. There is no way that the outcome happened like it did, it just isn't possible.

Just wait, in a year you're going to regret voting for Biden.

Whatever, I just wanted to state my opinion and I will leave it at that. I'm not really politically charged.

 

[Phenom]

Whatever, I just wanted to state my opinion and I will leave it at that. I'm not really politically charged.

And you're entitled to your opinion; but, it was the context in which you presented your opinion that prompted me to reply. You could have said, 'No, I wasn't a huge fan of his policies or his public responses.'

 

[Abizaga]

And you're entitled to your opinion; but, it was the context in which you presented your opinion that prompted me to reply. You could have said, 'No, I wasn't a huge fan of his policies or his public responses.'

Yeah I was specific so then with that, No, I wasn't a huge fan of his policies or his public responses.

 

[Phenom]

Yeah I was specific so then with that, No, I wasn't a huge fan of his policies or his public responses.

Fair enough. I'm not trying to accost you or your opinion, I just don't like when people give half-baked answers like that. It defeats the whole purpose of having a conversation.

 

[Abizaga]

Fair enough. I'm not trying to accost you or your opinion, I just don't like when people give half-baked answers like that. It defeats the whole purpose of having a conversation.

I yeah I suppose. I'm just kinda posting an opinion then just splitting.

 

[Phenom]

I yeah I suppose. I'm just kinda posting an opinion then just splitting.

Where's the fun in that though?

 

[Abizaga]

Where's the fun in that though?

Yeah I guess so. I'll probably just not post in here since I don't typically get political anyway.

 

[Phenom]

That's okay too. I'm only political this year because of events that have transpired in the US and such.

 

[MrDawn]

False. Charlie Kirk is still one of his biggest supporters and believes he will make a comeback and run again in the 2024 election.

We don't know that for certain. He may not run at all. If Trump runs, he runs. There is no guarantee that he will try.

Donald Trump breaks silence and hints at 2024 Presidential run

DONALD TRUMP had made his first public comments since Joe Biden was sworn in as President, hinting he may run for office again in 2024.

www.express.co.uk

Personally, I'm not certain because in the past when we had Obama, he backed out on the 2012 presidential race. Why? He knew that he would lose against Obama.

Donald Trump bows out of 2012 US presidential election race

US mogul formally announces he will not seek the Republican nomination, claiming he is 'not ready to leave the private sector'

www.theguardian.com

 

[Laifot]

As a foreigner that does not live in the US, it's very common to see a convulsion in a country that changes its public policies radically in a short period of time, happens a lot in a fellow country over here (Argentina) and i always think that you can't keep them all happy and satisfied.

I was never fan of his way though, starting with his poses and even the way he talks.. xd

 

[MrDawn]

I was never fan of his way though, starting with his poses and even the way he talks.. xd

Trump lost because of Covid, Civil Unrest (riots), failing to calm the country, and failed to greatly improve the economy since he took up office, the lock downs threw the economy in the toilet not to mention. I do agree that he should have posted less on Twitter and focused more on his job as president. The article I posted is pretty spot on about why he failed the way he did.

Trump faced COVID, a deadly crisis of international scope that almost no democracy handled well, a depression-like economic plunge associated with the virus and the draconian lockdowns, and the most widespread and destructive civil disorder since the 1960s. Near election day, the percentage of Americans who said the country was on the wrong track outnumbered those who thought it was on the right track by 61% to 32%. That actually represented a modest recovery since August 3, when the margin was 71% to 23%. Except for a moment in March (and perhaps late August) Trump was never able to turn the crises to his advantage. Instead, his reality-TV persona and endless Twitter bombardment proved unequal to the tasks at hand—to calm the nation, embrace the presidential role of head of state, administer the executive branch competently, and make a careful, reasoned argument in his defense.

In the end, too many Americans simply stopped listening. Many had stopped listening before 2020 began. Part of the referendum on Trump didn’t have to do with partisan issues or the state of the country, but with his conduct as president. Though his most fervent supporters tended to dismiss the importance of his comportment, it is undeniable that voters had some vague “presidential” standard which Trump too often failed to meet.

Why Trump Lost - Claremont Review of Books

...but almost won.

claremontreviewofbooks.com

 

[Phenom]

Trump lost because of Covid, Civil Unrest (riots), failing to calm the country, and failed to greatly improve the economy since he took up office, the lock downs threw the economy in the toilet not to mention. I do agree that he should have posted less on Twitter and focused more on his job as president. The article I posted is pretty spot on about why he failed the way he did.

What are you talking about? Unemployment was at an all time low, lower income workers were keeping more of their money out of each paycheck and his tariffs were forcing a lot of businesses to bring jobs back to the United States. Tell me again how he failed to improve the economy?

Between December 2009 and December 2016, the unemployment rate dropped 5.2 percentage points, from 9.9% to 4.7%. By December 2019, it had fallen another 1.2 percentage points, to 3.5%. A cursory look at those numbers might lead you to believe that the improvement under Trump was at best a continuation of a trend that began nearly a decade earlier.

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It’s necessary to place those numbers in context. By 2016, officials in the Treasury Department and at the Federal Reserve had concluded that the economy was at full employment and that further improvement in the labor market was unlikely. This was in line with the Congressional Budget Office’s guidance that further declines in the unemployment rate would push the economy beyond its sustainable capacity.

Once in office, Trump ignored this consensus. He implemented a program of tax cuts, spending increases and unprecedented pressure on the Fed to cut interest rates to zero and keep them there. Trump’s goal of 3% growth was derided as delusional, while a bipartisan chorus of commentators declared his policies reckless and irresponsible.

They were anything but. Not only did the unemployment rate continue to fall, but the percentage of Americans aged 25 to 54 either employed or looking for a job saw its first sustained rise since the late 1980s. This inflection point changed the character of the labor market.

In 2016, real median household income was $62,898, just $257 above its level in 1999. Over the next three years it grew almost $6,000, to $68,703. That’s perhaps why, despite the pandemic, 56% of U.S. voters polled last month said their families were better off today than they were four years ago.

Source - https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-10-30/trump-s-economy-really-was-better-than-obama-s

 

[MrDawn]

Tell me again how he failed to improve the economy?

I voted for Trump and wanted him to win in every way imaginable. AND I'm not saying Trump failed the economy before the Pandemic. I'm saying he failed it after the Pandemic hit. The American Economy took a huge swan dive into the pavement when COVID struck, that's where Trump failed because everything he achieved before no longer mattered.

The people didn't care about what Trump did when he walked into the office 4 years ago. They wanted him to fix this crisis right then and right now and he couldn't deliver. So now Biden is up to bat.

and then here's a documentary that showed how he failed the economy going into the pandemic. Yes, everyone who voted for Biden obviously blamed him for that.