Rehabilitation or punishment
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Studies have shown people are not learning from punishment so I figure rehab is the best way.
Also, many of the laws are dumb, like with pot.
Finally, as with rapists etc., it's more about seperating them from society so they can't repeat.
Also, many of the laws are dumb, like with pot.
Finally, as with rapists etc., it's more about seperating them from society so they can't repeat.
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Rehabilitation, giving the offender a chance for an education and / or to learn a trade, IN SOME CASES: works.
The other 90% of offenders have no intention of becoming a productive member of society and WANT to spend most of their adult life in the can... or to die on the street.
The other 90% of offenders have no intention of becoming a productive member of society and WANT to spend most of their adult life in the can... or to die on the street.
In the case of thieves and violent people who haven't done things too heinous, that would be a good idea.
I agree with you.
I don't have all the answers, but I believe that the proven worst of prisoners (ie, repeated initiations of violence towards the COs and/or other inmates) should probably be executed.
If they can be rehabilitated and learn that they did was immorally unacceptable & vow never to do it again. Then I can see them going back into society. But with rapists and serial murderers who have offended multiple times, I don't see a justifiable reason letting them go back onto the streets where they can harm someone else.
Well said and I agree with you.
I think a lot of it depends on the crime. For little petty crimes, I do think rehabilitation and support can work wonders (for some). But for certain crimes, there should always be severe punishment. I don't care if someone says their sorry, the fact they committed a crime such as murder or kidnapping should mean their privileges are taken way.
Rehabilitation works unless the guy gets released and then gets back into the same crowd he was with before that encouraged the poor behavior. It's easy to agree to treatment just to get out but even easier to go along with your friends who want to hold up the liquor store for quick cash.
If the prisoners are part of a gang, you can't just rehabilitate one member and expect him to not have repercussions when he gets out. It's hard to break away from the gang.
We need to start focusing on getting to the gangs and figuring out how to work on their mindsets so they don't commit crimes in the first place. I don't see many programs like that but there are some out there.
If the prisoners are part of a gang, you can't just rehabilitate one member and expect him to not have repercussions when he gets out. It's hard to break away from the gang.
We need to start focusing on getting to the gangs and figuring out how to work on their mindsets so they don't commit crimes in the first place. I don't see many programs like that but there are some out there.
As people keep making bad choices, they keep getting punished. People have a free will. This can be sad for loved ones of a criminal, but it's just a fact of life.
I'm guessing it's something we had in the past, a very long time ago but we don't have the death penalty at the moment.
Part of it depends on the crime and part of it depends on the person.
Some people learn from their mistakes and can go on to have a productive life afterwards.
At other times, I think there are certain crimes where they should not be released from jail.....EVER. But that depends on the seriousness of the crime.
Some people learn from their mistakes and can go on to have a productive life afterwards.
At other times, I think there are certain crimes where they should not be released from jail.....EVER. But that depends on the seriousness of the crime.
I don't think there's an iron clad solution to the problem because of the human psychy.
Some people don't want to change and learn to be better. Some times prison is the best answer because some people are immoral, impulsive, and lack self control. If you behave like a rabid animal, you're gonna get treated like one.
I think prison is helping to a point by keeping that person from going out and breaking the law and hurting or killing someone else. It's helping me and you. It's keeping us safe from the prisoner who is antagonizing society.
They have programs. The programs only work when the prisoner accepts it and uses it when they get out and don't re offend. But when the prisoner re-offends, they are showing an unwillingness to change.
If there is an unwillingness to change and behave like a civilized human being. The real solution to the problem is restraining them and taking away their freedoms and keeping them locked up so they aren't a danger to anyone else.
If a child keeps misbehaving, they deserve to stay in time out. It's just that simple and that's what prison is. Time out for us adults.
The last execution in the UK was in 1964.
The death penalty for most crimes, including murder was suspended in 1965 and then abolished in 1969, but you could still, in theory, be given a death sentence for a few crimes like treason up until 1998.
Agreed. If the judge and every member of the jury all actually were standing there a metre away when a murder was committed then they can be sure, in any other case the trial system is fallible and mistakes have been and will continue to be made.
I think most stuff people are thrown in jail for they can be brought back and rehabilitated, but there are some things which do require this:
nypost.com
South Carolina brings back firing squad executions
Final approval came Friday after the state Department of Corrections said renovations had been completed on a new death chamber where the executions can take place in the state capital of Columbia.
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I think it's an extremely complex situation, but I don't think throwing just anyone into prison for any offense is a particularly great system. Minor drug offenses, for instance, should not equate to prison time. Stiff fines and mandated education and/or rehabilitation facilities, yes, but prison? No. Likewise, if there is a possibility of someone seeing a release from prison, then they should be given a chance to rehabilitate. Those that are in for life or who have shown themselves to be habitual re-offenders with no regard for others, then punishment is probably the better option there.
That said, I think prisons should do more with their resources than offer a few mundane educational courses and then leave prisoners locked in their cells or mulling about in "gen pop" with little to do but get into more trouble. That does nothing to help anyone, and it's why drugs and drug use are more rampant in prisons than they are in free society. Personally, I think those who are in for minor offenses, offenses with tenable release dates, and those who are genuinely remorseful offenders who do not seem to be a high risk to re-offend should be rehabilitated, but not just a class here and a therapy session there, I think prison should be run not unlike a boot camp. Education, yes, but physical exercise, hard work, and structure would give them little choice but to adhere to the rules, and little energy for extra activities like crime, fights, drugs, etc. I also think prisoners shouldn't simply be released or thrown into the probation system and left to work it out for themselves. If they go right back to the environment that caused them such problems in the first place, how does that help them with regards to potential recidivism? There should be a re-acclimation centre, where they go to work and then return to the centre during the day, away from their old lives, and if they adapt properly, they get help finding housing and more stable employment in an area away from where they were before, unless they have strong family support and strong follow-up on their post-incarceration life. Is it practical? Probably not without serious funding and serious buy in from the entire prison system to make it work, but...it'd certainly be a start.
That said, I think prisons should do more with their resources than offer a few mundane educational courses and then leave prisoners locked in their cells or mulling about in "gen pop" with little to do but get into more trouble. That does nothing to help anyone, and it's why drugs and drug use are more rampant in prisons than they are in free society. Personally, I think those who are in for minor offenses, offenses with tenable release dates, and those who are genuinely remorseful offenders who do not seem to be a high risk to re-offend should be rehabilitated, but not just a class here and a therapy session there, I think prison should be run not unlike a boot camp. Education, yes, but physical exercise, hard work, and structure would give them little choice but to adhere to the rules, and little energy for extra activities like crime, fights, drugs, etc. I also think prisoners shouldn't simply be released or thrown into the probation system and left to work it out for themselves. If they go right back to the environment that caused them such problems in the first place, how does that help them with regards to potential recidivism? There should be a re-acclimation centre, where they go to work and then return to the centre during the day, away from their old lives, and if they adapt properly, they get help finding housing and more stable employment in an area away from where they were before, unless they have strong family support and strong follow-up on their post-incarceration life. Is it practical? Probably not without serious funding and serious buy in from the entire prison system to make it work, but...it'd certainly be a start.