Black Widow

[MrDawn]

Anyone going to see Black Widow when it comes out?

 

[Zakalwe]

Yes and yes. My favourite Marvel characters are the 'human normal' ones. Those without obvious super powers. Looking forward to this.

 

[MrDawn]

Yes and yes.

I want to go see it. People have been asking for a Black Widow movie since Avengers 2: Age of Ultron. It's nice to see we're getting one.

 

[Empire]

SHe's getting on now right LOL

 

[Phenom]

 

[Demon_skeith]

Is this still delayed? Kind of forgot about it with Covid.

 

[MrDawn]

Is this still delayed? Kind of forgot about it with Covid.

Yeah. They've been advertising this movie for a year and 5 months now. They started releasing trailers at the beginning of December of 2019. Then we had all of 2020 to deal with the pandemic and now we're almost 4 months into 2021. It'll almost be 2 years that they've been advertising a movie they won't release.

 

[JennyorAlice]

I've seen some trailers but I haven't heard of a release for it. I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering about this.

 

[Kylie]

I just read this about it: “Black Widow” will also fall under Premier Access. The MCU tentpole was originally set to open in May 2020 before the pandemic pushed it first to November 6, 2020 and then to May 7, 2021. Guess we'll have to hope this is the real release date as I want to see this.

 

[Empire]

Weird some films are pushed back and others are live streaming on other networks

 

[MrDawn]

I loved it. Especially the mystery behind The Taskmaster. But I thought it was a great character and good backstory.

 

[Phenom]

Saw it, wasn't impressed. Really disappointed in what they did with Taskmaster too.

 

[MrDawn]

Saw it, wasn't impressed. Really disappointed in what they did with Taskmaster too.

I'd be interested to see a list of things that you didn't like about it.

As for Taskmaster, was it because they made HE into a SHE?

 

[JennyorAlice]

My hubby watched this over the weekend. I didn't. It took so long for this to come out that I kind of forgot about it.

 

[Kylie]

Spoiler: My rant about this movie

What is was, really, was a waste of time.

Firstly, the movie didn't give what we expected, which was at least a rundown of the events in BW's life leading up to her time with the Avengers. Instead, it just gave us some backstory about what she was doing during the period between Civil War and Infinity War, which, in my frank opinion, is irrelevant. This leads me to my second point:

This movie doesn't bring anything significant to the MCU. Does this movie really reveal anything about the future of the MCU, except for the fact that Yelena Bellova is going to join Val's covert government owned Avengers? (Florence Pugh did amazing in her role, don't get me wrong). I mean, honestly, without this movie, the MCU would've fared so much better, and wouldn't have risked so many bad ratings like this one.

Furthermore, this movie is just another one of those feminist-appealing ones. I mean, I get it, BW is a cool character and all, but don't forget she is still a human with no sort of superpowers at all. I'm pretty sure that the directors and screen writers ignored this fact when they made her SURVIVE A FREAKIN HUNDRED-SOMETHING DROP, and strike a pose when she landed. This is impossible for a normal human to accomplish, so I feel like they indirectly and incorrectly attempted to show that woman are super strong.

Finally, I'll end this rant with my most annoying gripe with this movie: the gender swapping of Taskmaster. In the comics, Tony Masters, is Taskmaster, who is a man by the way. For some stupid reason, they made Taskmaster a woman, with the most dumb backstory. Like, two years ago, she was a little kid, and now she's the exact same age as BW. Like, why??? Save yourself the hassle of trying to explain all these plot-holes by making the character true to itself, MCU. I, as a Taskmaster fan, felt incredibly robbed of my time after finding out it wasn't Tony Masters who was Taskmaster, but instead a character who doesn't have any influence on the MCU at all. Absolutely horrendous, in my opinion. They better bring Taskmaster back the correct way, or these movies will just keep getting worse. I mean, there are so many other African American actors out there (Tony Masters is African American), and you just had to choose some obscure person. I was okay with gender swapping for Eternals, because I didn't really care about any of those characters, but this is just too far of a step into feminist territory for Marvel.

 

[Empire]

It's going to be a while before I get to see this and so I will not read your rant

 

[Demon_skeith]

Spoiler: My rant about this movie

What is was, really, was a waste of time.

Firstly, the movie didn't give what we expected, which was at least a rundown of the events in BW's life leading up to her time with the Avengers. Instead, it just gave us some backstory about what she was doing during the period between Civil War and Infinity War, which, in my frank opinion, is irrelevant. This leads me to my second point:

This movie doesn't bring anything significant to the MCU. Does this movie really reveal anything about the future of the MCU, except for the fact that Yelena Bellova is going to join Val's covert government owned Avengers? (Florence Pugh did amazing in her role, don't get me wrong). I mean, honestly, without this movie, the MCU would've fared so much better, and wouldn't have risked so many bad ratings like this one.

Furthermore, this movie is just another one of those feminist-appealing ones. I mean, I get it, BW is a cool character and all, but don't forget she is still a human with no sort of superpowers at all. I'm pretty sure that the directors and screen writers ignored this fact when they made her SURVIVE A FREAKIN HUNDRED-SOMETHING DROP, and strike a pose when she landed. This is impossible for a normal human to accomplish, so I feel like they indirectly and incorrectly attempted to show that woman are super strong.

Finally, I'll end this rant with my most annoying gripe with this movie: the gender swapping of Taskmaster. In the comics, Tony Masters, is Taskmaster, who is a man by the way. For some stupid reason, they made Taskmaster a woman, with the most dumb backstory. Like, two years ago, she was a little kid, and now she's the exact same age as BW. Like, why??? Save yourself the hassle of trying to explain all these plot-holes by making the character true to itself, MCU. I, as a Taskmaster fan, felt incredibly robbed of my time after finding out it wasn't Tony Masters who was Taskmaster, but instead a character who doesn't have any influence on the MCU at all. Absolutely horrendous, in my opinion. They better bring Taskmaster back the correct way, or these movies will just keep getting worse. I mean, there are so many other African American actors out there (Tony Masters is African American), and you just had to choose some obscure person. I was okay with gender swapping for Eternals, because I didn't really care about any of those characters, but this is just too far of a step into feminist territory for Marvel.

So sounds like a cop out just to get a movie on the character?

 

[MrDawn]

I didn't see this coming. Scarlet Johansson is suing Disney & quit Marvel.

Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney Over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

Scarlett Johansson, star of Marvel Entertainment’s 2021 movie “Black Widow,” has filed suit against Walt Disney Co. over the decision to release the movie on Disney+ at the same time as in theaters.

www.wsj.com

Scarlett Johansson says she's done playing Black Widow

The Marvel star’s first solo outing as the superhero released last week

gulfnews.com

 

[Kylie]

Scarlet Johansson is suing Disney & quit Marvel

Don't blame her. The studios want to include streaming revenue so that the movie does not appear to be a bomb, but not when it comes to sharing with the talent.

 

[MrDawn]

Don't blame her. The studios want to include streaming revenue so that the movie does not appear to be a bomb, but not when it comes to sharing with the talent.

I feel like that was a terrible move on Disney's part. She's been loyal to the franchise because she's been doing it since Iron Man 2. That makes her a veteran. Scarlet did a great job in every MCU film she starred in and I feel like they could have done way more with her because of her popularity. But they decided to go behind her back and rip her off. So I don't know why they'd want to mess with the work horse.